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The boys made a very smart decision for only being 12 years old. Prsonally I know how to survive and the first thing that you need to do is make a shelter. The reason theat you need a shelter is because it gives you a sense of home and it feels like you have more protection. Secondly this helps the rescue people find where you are because animals normally don't make a house like shelter.
I would not get food first because berets are always a choice and when you have a base camp you can make a fire and be able to cook what you hunted and killed. Also the shelter will protect you from any of the elements that you have to deal with.
Having a shelter can make all thedifference because if you are with small children they will go insane and they will not be able to have the feeling of safety that at home they have parents and they have a strong house so it will make them feel like they have a place to be safe. That also goes for adults because after a long day of hunting or whatever you re doing you want to be able to sit down and rest somewhere that it is comfortable and sfe so you can rest in peace and not have to worry about your safety.
Jacob Ellenby
If I were in the same position as the boys in Lord of the Flies, I would first build a shelter. Building a shelter would be best because it would be our camp and where everyone would go to at the end of the day. Also for the sake of protection against natural disturbances like rain. It would also benefit to first build a shelter for somewhere to sleep.
What most people want is a place to return to. That being said, out in the wilderness, it would be best to build a shelter for the purpose of it being a home for everyone. It would be the one place that everyone would know the location of. At the end of the day, everyone would gather at the shelter and no one would be wondering where they would sleep. Knowing exactly the location of the people in your group are going to be is beneficial in surviving in the wild.
If I were in the same situation with the boys in the island, I will explore the island and build my shelter.
I wil explore the island before I build my shelter. But it is not the major thing. It is one of the process to make good shelter. If explore island, I can figure out the location of water, fruits and dangerous place. So I can make my shelter where is close to water and easy to get fruits. Also make a simple map to use when lost.
I will make a shelter because it is the most important thing to survive. We can live for some days without foods. So I have a time to prepare for the hunting and make some traps to catch animal easily.
Shelter is the most important because shelter paly same role as a home. Home make us feel safe, and give comfort to our mind. And we need time to adjust the new environment, we can spend time at shelter safely.
So if I were in same situation with the boys in island, I will make shelter first to survive.
If I were to be stranded on an island I would make sure to do some things before others for many reasons. In the book there is a feud between Ralph and Jack as to what to do first on the island. Jack decides that hunting is the way to go while Ralph thinks shelter is more important. I agree with Ralph. But there are also some other things that I would make sure to do before the rest.
I believe in what Ralph is saying for many reasons. One is because if you have that many small children and they don’t have shelter they may literally go insane. They are used to having a place to sleep and a place to consider home. If they don’t have these factors in their lives they won’t know what to do. Also, having a shelter could serve as a meeting place. When Ralph blows the conch people are notified that there is a meeting, but it could take a little while for people to find him. They could say ‘When you hear the conch everyone meet at the huts’. This would not only be a good way for everyone to be in one place at one time but it also lessens the chance of the littler kids getting lost.
Another thing I would do when I first got to the island was to check out what there was to eat that didn’t need to be hunted. This could then give me a good idea of how long I could take building the shelters before we actually needed to go hunting. Doing this also decreases the amount of complaints about the lack of food and allows there to be less arguing.
The last thing I would make sure to do is do figure out a way to boil the salt water. If they made an area that was strictly for boiling the water and they had a system that allows them to do so things would go much smoother. In the book everyone drinks out of a coconut shell that can only hold a tiny bit of water. If they have a good system they could assign certain people to work on the water. This division of labor would get things done more efficiently.
Olivia Arnold 4th period
First I would build myself some shelter so that I can feel protected from things. It's important that you build yourself a shelter because you may catch a disease outside and you can't cover yourself from the rain. Also wild animals can attack you from anywhere so it's better to make a shelter before any harm comes near you. The boys on the island created a conflict because more people rather go hunting for food and some rather create a shelter. It is better to make sure you are protected at all times.
Now for rescue I would create a huge fire so that people from above can notice it. If I was stuck on an island and I wanted to get off of it everyday I would get big sticks to make an S.O.S sign. The boys on the island should wave their hands and scream, so that the people on a helicopter can rescue them. At some point the boys on the island would try to make sure they are rescue someday. I would hate live on a stranded island with no help at all from anybody.
If I was on the island in that situation, the first thing I would do would be to search for fresh water and then focus on building a good shelter in a good spot. After all, you can go longer without food than you can water, so the idea of hunting/ foraging would come last. Also, the resources on that island are quite abundant, so it's not like you won't starve. Plus, if you build a shelter in a good spot, you have ready access to the resources available.
After successfully building a shelter and finding a fresh water source, I would start foraging for food. In the situation presented, multiple food sources are readily available; such as tide pool shellfishing and also gathering fruits and nuts from trees around the area. The last area would be to create some sort of S.O.S signal, such as a fire or creating a ines in the sand as a fall back plan.
I think it’s necessary to say from the beginning that the following is not what I necessarily would do; rather what I think would be the best course of action for me to take. Sitting at home comfortably on a couch, it seems easy enough to ponder as to what steps I could take to have even a chance at surviving on an island. However, I can imagine the actual experience would be quite a bit different. It’s impossible for me to predict how I would react; whether it be as calm as Ralph or Jack, or as helpless and unsure as the “littleuns.” Therefore, I’ll treat this as what I would do in the best-case scenario.
If I were stranded on a desert island, the first thing that I would want to do would be to find a source of fresh water. Depending on how I became stranded in the first place, it is possible I could be severely dehydrated-and even if that is not the case, laying on a beach with the sun beating down on me would do nothing to stifle my thirst. I would try looking through the forest area, assuming there is one, for streams and such. Upon finding a reliable, flowing source of water I would establish a place to build a shelter within a few yards of the stream or river. It is important to stay close to your resources at times like these, and if I could create a makeshift “home” in that area, I would not have to walk very long to reach (nor stand a chance of losing place of) the river.
Figuring out what my “menu” was on the island would be my next priority. I would look around the area within close proximity to my shelter to see what I could eat to keep myself alive until rescue. Hunting would not be my first choice, of course, but eventually it would be necessary, as humans cannot survive on nuts and berries alone. I would need something sustaining to give me the energy needed to begin working on a plan that would ensure my eventual rescue.
Which, of course, leads me to the final step I would take in order to survive on the island. No matter how much water I might have, nor how much food, living alone would drive me insane over time. Of course, if there were other people stranded with me, it would be much more bearable-but that certainly doesn’t undermine the will I would have to be rescued. As portrayed in “The Lord of the Flies”, smoke would be a good signal for passing ships and planes to realize that somebody on the island needed help. However, as is also shown in the novel, it is quite a task to keep said fire burning. If I were alone, it would be nearly impossible (additionally, the prospect of accidentally setting fire to the forest is not a good one). It would be more practical of me to do something that required less maintenance-for example, the classic arranging of rocks on the beach into a large “SOS.” While boats would miss it, there is the possibility that a plane passing by may take notice and call for help.
It is not foolproof, of course, despite this being a best-case-scenario course of my action. But if I somehow became stranded on a desert island, I cannot guarantee that my mind would be working the same way it is now. In fact, I find it highly unlikely that I would have the capacity to think rationally after the shock of the situation. Unlike the young children in the novel, I may have had a better understanding of just how bleak the future really looked.
Making the choice for food or shelter is a hard one for an adult but these twelve year olds have to do it. Having food would be more beneficial than having a shelter because you can make a simple shelter out of a cave for the time being. Having food is essential for surviving in the wilderness. Wasting time on making a shelter isn't necessary because having a shelter and no food is no good because you will end up dying. Food is the thing that will be the best choice in the long run.
Hunting for a hog isn't the only from of hunting for food they can do and i wouldn't limit myself to that. If i wasn't having the luck with the pig, I would start hunting for berries,nuts,insects, and eggs because you can live off of all those things. there wouldn't be anything wrong with living in a cave for the time being but without food you would die in the matter of a week and a half maybe. the food aspect would be my biggest concern, especially if i was looking to spending time there because I would rather be found alive than dead tucked away in my shelter. Having food is no doubt the most important thing and i agree with the kids in the book hunting for food rather than all of them building a shelter.
If I were in the situation that boys in "Lord Of The Flies" are in, I would make or find a place to sleep in so that there was a place I could call home. Then I would get a group of people together to get food such as fruits and vegetables or the resources that are around. Also I would get a group of people to hunt for meat.
In order to ensure that we were able to be rescued that there was enough firewood to make a fire that would bring enough smoke so that people in planes or in a boat would be able to see it from far away. Also in order to make sure that works I would get a group of people together who were in charge of the fire on different shifts, so that the fire wood wouldn't be used up when there was no sign of civilization coming around the island anyway.
To ensure survival between hunting and setting up shelter, setting up shelter would be first. By setting up shelter I mean first look for natural dwellings such as caves. Then if there were no natural dwellings then I would move to developing shelter from items on the island. Setting up shelter is important because on an island you don't know what animals are native to the islands, so first off you need it for protection. For young children they need a sense of home when away from home to keep them level. You wouldn't want to sleep on the ground, so you want to build or have some type of bed where you can feel safe.
This is more important than hunting because first off when you're talking about hunting your strictly talking about meat. Until you find/build shelter you can live off of fruits and vegetables from the islands. Also hunting is very time consuming so you could go out to hunt and not come back till late at night and you wouldn't have any shelter. Some say that you need to hunt first to have energy to build but you also need energy to hunt. I'm not saying that shelter is more important than food.
To ensure survival you need shelter first before you go to hunt meat. Because you can eat other food such as fruits and vegetables from the islands.
If I were stranded on a deserted island with a group of people I would do thing slighty different then the boys in Lord of the Flies. For starters i would split people up into three main groups based on their skills instead of two groups. The group who is more agile faster and stronger would be in charge of the hunting finding food, for obvious reasons. The right brained people or creatives and handy’s would be in charge of shelter, finding innovative creative ideas for shelter using their nature resources. We wouldn’t want a logical common sense people working on finding ways of shelter because we could end up sleeping on the ground, we want the creative people to find ways to have shelter and keep safe from the elements and nature. The left brained of intellectuals of the groups would be working on a way to rescue, this is were logic and knowledge is key. They would be spelling out S.O.S. signals, or finding ways of physically taking all of us off the island, as in making a boat.
When I first read this question, or whenever thinking about this subject, being on a stranded island, I would automatically think of making a giant fire for a smoke signal. But because of the trial and era of the boy’s attempt at making a fire, i re-thought that idea. Building a fire and making a successful smoke signal would be time consuming. I might try and make a giant fire but unlike in the book i would not have the whole community of the island working on the fire. Although all of the boys put in physical energy for making the fire, they put no thought or processing into it. As soon as they heard the word fire they thought of an exciting project and ran to it, as Piggy states.
Of course in all small groups the ‘alpha male’, or ‘natural born leader’ would step up and take control. One who has intelligence and aspiring charisma for the group. Planning ahead and thinking as if we wouldn’t be rescued from the island, a form of democracy would have to be formed, so the island wouldn’t turn into a tyranny. There would be a vote on everything by everyone’s say and opinion and form a sense of community.
Like Jack and Simon I would have to agree that hunting would make more sense then building a shelter initially. Although I know that everyone needs shelter in their lives, it is more realistic to give yourself the energy to build a shelter in the first place. In the book, Jack and his choir were chosen as hunters. To hold a bunch of 6 year olds responsible for hunting pigs to feast on for a group is almost an impossible task. In their case sticking with nearby fruits and berries is ideal until they can figure out how to hunt. Even before figuring out how to hunt, it would be better for the kids to get an outline of what they’ll use to build their shelter out of.
Personally, while I am still healthy and able to feed myself, I would go out hunting. Even though I have no prior experience it’s better to learn from my mistakes right away so I could learn how to survive in the future. Perhaps if I start hunting along the way I could find a potential shelter, in a cave, just temporarily until I could figure out a strategy to get off the island. A car needs gas to do tasks like getting people to work everyday. Food serves as gas for humans and without food we don’t have the energy to get anywhere. While Jack, Simon and I are all unfamiliar with hunting, all of us can agree that it is the best tactic for survival and possibly getting off the island.
If I were faced with the predicament of being stranded on an island, I wouldn't hesitate to build a shelter. The shelter would be of utter importance and the top priority on my list. Its purpose would be more than just protection from any weather issues such as rain and winds. In an uninhabited land like an island I would be stranded on, a place I could label as "home" would be a necessity. Before I went out to hunt, I would need somewhere to return any game I successfully killed, somewhere I could prepare the animal properly. My shelter would also serve as a landmark for me to know where I am on the island, using my point of view from the shelter to get a sense of direction and to make sure not to venture too far from it to prevent me getting lost.
Building a shelter would be my first objective once stranded on a desolate island. After getting settled, I could start searching for food and a water source, maybe make some sort of signal for help.
Yusuf kudaimi
If I was in a survival situation like the boys on the island I would first elect an official, someone to be in charge and have control over several lost and scared boys. This leader would set up and maintain order throughout the course of this experience. Being abandoned on an unknown island, and no recollection of where they are, the boys need someone to look up to and depend on.
The second thing I would do is set certain groups of people to do specific jobs and only do those jobs. Dissociating the choir seems to be a reasonable response to breaking up groups. This allows the boys to depend on new people and work with others that they would normally not work with. This can go one of two ways. Separating the choir may be a tremendous idea, or a failure. After creating two distinct groups, I would set each group to do one thing. One group would build a shelter, as they other would go hunting for berries, vegetables, and animals for the group to eat. If one group was not successful, the two groups would switch.
I think it is important to set a permanent “father” figure who would lead the boys. As they may not show it, I suspect that most of the boys are nervous and anxious to get off of the island. By finding a leader, it may be that much more comforting to the boys on the island.
Samantha Panozzo
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LOTF
In the unlikely situation in which I would be stranded on an island with only young boys, the first big step I would take to ensure survival is to make or find some sort of shelter. In chapter three Ralph demonstrates his idea as an effort to eliminate fear others have of the beasty, yet does not mention his own horrific fantasies of the snakes. On the other hand Jack prefers to flaunt his manhood and prove to his peers that he can kill a pig.
Shelter may not be physically necessary but it allows the children to have a place they call home. Once a “home” is established the steps toward rescue will come with ease because the children understand that even if the plan is not successful there is a place to return to and relax. My family and I experience great relief when we come home because it’s a reminder that even though today may have been bad, there is always tomorrow. With the thought of tomorrow and possibility of rescue in the children’s minds their chances of rescue are far more likely.
If I were in a survival situation like the boys in “Lord of the Flies” by William Golding, the first thing I would do is build a shelter, or at least set up a base camp of sorts, and make sure I knew where a source of water was. This would be my first priority because I know how essential water would be to my survival. I would also feel it to be crucial I have a shelter to protect from weather and animals and to give me a sense of home and some bearings to help find my way around the island.
The first thing I would do when I realized I was stranded on the island would be set a place to come back to after exploring some, in search of water and food. I might mark this place by arranging rocks, limbs, or leaves in a specific way so that I would recognize the spot once I came by it again. I would then go in search of water, hopefully some fruits or vegetables, and potentially some materials to help build a shelter or a suitable natural shelter. If there was a jungle where I was stranded, like there was in “Lord of the Flies”, I would not go straight into the heart of it in my search. I would carefully make my way around the edges and slowly going deeper into the jungle as I went, because of the lack of knowledge of plants and animals on the island.
After finding water, and hopefully some source of food, I would begin to set up my shelter. I would use whatever resources available, be it branches, rocks, leave, etc. to try to build a structure that would provide some protection from weather conditions and animals. I would also try to make it a source of comfort; somewhere I could relax and rest at night, or just go to to feel safe. Once I set up a satisfactory shelter, I would begin to put more focus on how to find food and send signals in order to get rescued.
Julie Wiegel
There are many important things you should do when you are stranded on an island and in the book The lord of the flies Ralph and the other kids only did a few of them. But yet again that was very impressive for a 12 year old and a bunch of kids.
The first thing I would do if I got stranded on an island is assembling everyone in one place and make hierarchy of power (leader, co-leader and so on). This is important because the people will know their place and it will help lessen the chaos. The next most important thing I would do is split the group into two subgroups. I would make one group find a supply of freshwater. Water is much more important than food because a person could go a week without food and survive but can only go two to three days without water. I would make the second group create a big fire. I would do this so passing by ships might see this and stop at the island. After all of this I would make a simple shelter for the first night. It will help the kids have a sense of home and it will give them a feeling of safety or at least the illusion of feeling safe. The next day I would make the young kids with one or two older kids (for supervision) gather some fruits and berries. I would make the older kids build a much more permanent shelter. After we have regained most of our strength after a couple of days I would send a small group of kids to go out and survey the island and make a simple map. Finally I would want some kids to make tools such as fishing rods and spears so it could help us hunt. Finally I would focus on making controlled fires around the perimeter of the island so if a ship passes on the other side of the island they would still know that people are on the island.
These are a list of steps I would do to help ensure the survival and hopefully the rescue of my group of survivors.
If I were in the situation of the boys on the island, I would have gone about things much differently. They grouped together, talked for a while, explored the island, made fire, and then finally argued whether to make a shelter or go hunting first. Survival is all about saving your energy, because in the wild, without energy, you’re nothing.
If on a deserted island I would definitely search for any other humans, if I found none, I would then start to think about making camp. Without a camp you have nowhere to go, you always need somewhere to run back to in case of emergency. After setting up camp, I would gather wood to make a fire, and figure out a way to start it. The fire would be generating a lot of smoke therefore raising the chance of my rescue. Food is also an every crucial thing for survival, so I would look for any kind of fruit or edible vegetation that I could find. Finally after maintaining a stable shelter, food supply, and water, hunting would be my next priority.
If I were trapped on a vacant island accompanied by several other boys, my first concern would be to build shelters. A shelter has many different vital purposes that would contribute to both the survival and rescue of the boys. These shelters would protect from overwhelming weather (storms, sun, excessive rain, etc…), provide the kids with a meeting point, and give them a place to sleep. Not only is it a shelter for the boys to seek refuge, it also fills in the “home” role for many of these children who are younger and feel any sense of insecurity.
Building shelters can only be made achievable if the boys utilize themselves and their natural resources as much as possible. The shelters would consist of several tree branches/trunks, leaves, and any other significant resources that are found within the island. As far as working as a team, if people do not cooperate or work as one, then the work rate will be significantly slower and shelters will not be made.
Although constructing shelters consumes a great amount of energy, it still should be the first thing to be done. Without shelters, there is no actual storage, safe haven, or housing on the island. With housing built first, the boys can now do everything else essential with much more ease, as shelters aid other priorities.
Although other things may seem as important, my first move to guarantee and help my survival and rescue would be to build shelters for several reasons. There are numerous functions of these shelters that also help other main concerns that the group may have. These shelters serve as a first building block in a growing community.
As I said on the class, I will find a good place first. Make sure the place is safe, will not make myself be woken by the big or wave, and get water and salt easily (means not far from river and beatch). And maybe I will eat some row shell or crab tonight instead of get fire and hunting, but make sure I can find them before hight comes. I would plan at night and sleep in the cave or on the tree, and make the shelter tommorow. create a fire if possible. I will start hunting at the 3rd day. Or I can find something alone the beatch if I am as lucky as the guy in Cast Away.
Ralph and Simon made the right decision to first build shelters on the island because they need to make it habitable for them for the time that they will be there before somebody can rescue them. They already had access to an abundance of fruits and nuts so Jack's bloodlust wasn't helping their living conditions. With Jack in charge of the hunters, the only group of children there that listened, they could have built the shelters quickly but Jack was too busy gallivanting around trying to kill a pig to control them.
The fire, though a good idea, should have come later. First of all, they made it at night where even if there was a ship out there, the smoke would be barely visible if at all. Then they let it get out of control which could have rid the island of all of the resources that they needed to make fires, shelters, and kill pigs.
-Anthony Zaniolo
If I was in a situation in which I had to try to survive on an uninhabited island I would make many of the same decisions as the boys from William Golding's "Lord of the Flies". The boys in my opinion did some of the really basic survival techniques that I would follow.
The first thing that I would do after a crash would be to see if anyone else survived. Then immediately start a fire that would let off allot of smoke to ensure if a boat or plane came across the island they would see it. Next it would be important to find a steady source of food such as fruit trees and vegetable plants. Then get together and try to determine if who is going to be the leader. A very important next step would be to then try to figure out a better plan for food such as who can hunt and who can fish. Finally have some people designated to build shelters and keep track of everyone on the island.
Over all being on a uninhabited island is hard and for a bunch of children to survive there on their own is even harder. Even just putting these plans into action would be difficult. Saying and doing are two different things
If I were in the same situation as the boys, I would make sure to build a shelter and to keep myself as safe as possible. Being out somewhere alone or with people that are young and have no experience in living on their own is tough. Having a shelter is the number one priority that needs to be done. A shelter will provide security and will help you to be fine until you can be rescued.
I would also have to search for my water supply, and food supply. Keeping a positive and strong mentality will help you succeed in providing for youself. There is alot of things to do in order to make sure you are able to survive on your own on a stranded island. The boys have confidence in trying to stay alive, and I would be the same as them.
If i was trapped on an island like the boys, the first thing i would do would be explore the island and see how big it is. Then I would write signs in the sand saying HELP in more than one area. Next i would make sure i had a safe area to sleep in and a fire. One big enough for a signal, and one to keep me warm.
The next day is when i would go for food. I would also try to make weapons to protect me and so i can kill my food. Then i would also fortify my house so nothing can get me while i was sleeping.
But after all that i would order a pizza. lol jk mr weil
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